[Kelowna]

Hi, new Rubicon on order, excited, hell ya!

So full of questions, and think I may drive all of you to drink excessively, as I ask too many questions, but I hope not.
But to kick them off, can anyone confirm if it is for sure illegal to drive around, doors off in British Columbia, Canada? I hear both sides, but no one is pointing out the actual words in a law book to me saying its illegal. If its not illegal, I would like to print this, and carry it with me incase I get stopped. Thanks

 

[OurJeeplife]

Spending several hours searching for something usable, I to found yes and no answers.. therefore I went directly to the sources.. Although I wasn't able to acquire a precise answer for you.. I did find a few things at this site which may or may not offer you your answer..

http://www.tc.gc.ca/eng/acts-regulations/regulations-crc-c1038.htm

However, after skimming through these topics.. it's clear to me that Canada has some of the strictest laws when it comes to vehicle safety and if we just so happen to venture up that ways.. I guess we best have our OEM doors in place. Again the site above is your best source for answer and would email them, Instead of submitting a question in any john doe forums.

 

[Kelowna]

Thanks kindly for the link, and help.

 

[Kelowna]

I emailed them, and hope to hear back sometime. Would you like me to post the email reply here when/If I get one.

 

[Xpress]

Call your local law enforcement office and ask.

 

[Kelowna]

Xpress, they gave me lots of double talk, and never a straight answer. They were actually my first attempt at getting this answered.

 

[yabaduu]

I drove in FL and now drive in CA with doors off. Never been stopped.

 

[RikRotorhead]

I would think that if the vehicle is designed by the factory to have the doors removable, it should be OK. Check your owners manual and see if it says off road only.
It is legal in California to drive my YJ with no doors and the windshield folded down as long as you have eye protection.

 

[Xpress]

YJ's don't have a windshield, they have a windscreen. Windshield is permanently affixed, a Windscreen is removable. If the vehicle was designed from the factory to have removable components such as the doors, windscreen, and top/roof, then it is perfectly legal to remove said components, as long as:

-They do not impair ones vision while driving the vehicle
-They do not impede ones ability to control the vehicle
-They do not distract oncoming traffic (in a blatantly distracting manner)

At least that's the sense I've made from California's laws, and we have some hella strict laws.

Now, it would not be the smartest idea to drive with the windscreen down, especially if it's raining, hailing, or bug season...

 

[OurJeeplife]

I think everyone is missing the point here.. Kelowna asked about Canada laws.. Here in the states, We drive with the doors off with only one stipulation.. making sure the mirrors are relocated on the Jeep's body.. If you ask me.. I don't understand why Jeep didn't correct this in the first place.

 

[RikRotorhead]

That question has been raised on other forums. What was Jeep thinking when they made removable doors with the mirrors mounted on them?
Rocket surgery.

 

[Xpress]

Rocket surgery? That's ease. Telescope surgery

 

[RikRotorhead]

Rocket science/brain surgery = rocket surgery.

 

[Kelowna]

I have so far called and/or emailed many places looking for an answer. I have yet to get a real yes or no. I have talked to the local traffic division of the RCMP, Transport Canada, the Law Library in Victoria BC, and ICBC just moments ago. I have a call in to the largest news organization I can think of in BC, and am hoping the traffic Lady Kaitlyn Herbst calls me back. I am going to ask her if she can maybe find out, since she likely has contacts, and a lot more pull than a nobody like me.

 

[RikRotorhead]

Repeat after me.....
I am not a nobody. I am a somebody.

 

[Kelowna]

I am okay with being a nobody, that for the most part brings me peace, and people leave me alone. Too many years of constant interaction with people, has made me truly appreciate the quiet. We moved away from the big city, to a smaller city, but a property on the outskirts of town, I can sit outside and sip my morning coffee, and enjoy the trees, birds, and read my paper in peace. Putter in the yard, or garage, go for long walks, skip rocks on the lake. Ahhhhhhhh wish I had done this 25 years earlier.

 

[Kelowna]

I have exhausted all sources I can think of to get this answered. It appears the law is poorly written, but that if the doors were meant to be removed, it should be okay to do so. If an owner, or main operator of this forum wishes me to forward an email I received from Transport Canada I am glad to do so, I just need the email to send it to. So how is the proper way to affix mirrors to our Jeeps when the doors are off? Are you buying after market mirrors with spring clamps and attaching to the windshield pillars, or ? Parts sourcing?

 

[eastcoastcam]

Can you post up the email response that you got??

This is an email a buddy of mine got a few weeks ago regarding the same question here in Nova Scotia.

Thank you for your email sent April 26, 2012 related to the use of a motor vehicle (Jeep) without doors.

As identified by Pat O'Malley, Coordinator of Motor Vehicle Inspections, a motor vehicle must have properly functioning doors affixed to the vehicle in order to pass a Motor Vehicle Inspection. Therefore, it is an offense to operate a motor vehicle on a highway that is not equipped as required by law.

This Pat O'Malley is a jack ***. The MVI manual, the book the mechanics go by states any vehicle needs 2 rearview mirrors, one being on the driver's side. No mention of requiring doors.

The following is quoted from the motor vehicle inspection book.

PASSENGER AND LIGHT COMMERCIAL VEHICLES

Part 2 Section 3
Mirrors

NOTE: All passenger vehicles manufactured after 1971 are required to be equipped with a left outside mirror.

If you ask the cops here, you'll get mixed answers, and also Vehicle Compliance officers as well. Some will tell you there is no law requiring side mirrors even. At least there's the manual to fall back on.

Check out the "cheap mods" thread in the TJ OEM section, & do something like what is there for a DS mirror, and don't waste your time on the PS. With the relocation brackets, your PS mirror is totally useless if your doors are on.

 

[Kelowna]

Thanks Eastcoastcam. Email to follow.

 

[eastcoastcam]

Email replied.

Check this link out. It is to our local Jeep Club. Take a read of some of the **** our government tried to ram down our backs regarding vehicle saftey inspections (we have to do it every 2 years. Used to be yearly! $25) there's alot to read on the MVI stuff, but worth the read. Craig, I pm'd you the password, if it asks for one. They tried here, they were trying in Saskachewan too. winter tires by law in Quebec etc. Things like that could happen out there too.

http://www.nsjc.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=mvi