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Old 08-16-2012, 02:31 AM   #11
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She is a totally different case and has very little to do with the dream act. She was obviously dropped off at an orphanage in some country which is probably where she is legal. I wouldn't have a kid in Germany then fly to Mexico to drop my kind off. The orphanage also should have taken care of her paperwork.

She is more of a kidnapping case then anything else.
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She is a totally different case and has very little to do with the dream act. She was obviously dropped off at an orphanage in some country which is probably where she is legal. I wouldn't have a kid in Germany then fly to Mexico to drop my kind off. The orphanage also should have taken care of her paperwork.

She is more of a kidnapping case then anything else.
Agreed, but she falls into the Dream Act guidelines. So what would you have her do?
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She should have already been taken care of since she was a kidnapping victim.

I personally think she would become an american citizen only because she has no idea anything or anyone else. She has no parents or family to go home to.

You cannot start letting thousands of people in just because one girl was ubducted many years ago. That is not what the dream act was written for. It is an unfortunate circumstance for her. Maybe they should get someone that can help her be here legally?

Anyone can come here legally.

To me the dream act says if you can get here without getting caught and hide for 5 years then you have passed the tests it takes to stay here. I for one know they do not do nearly enough to deport people and if you get arrested being here illegally they give you a slap on the wrist and let you go when you should be deported.
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Rik, the girl I feel bad for, and yes the courts IMO should allow her to stay as part of the decision in the case that sends her crazy kidnapper to prison for 25 years. The psycho lady needs to be charged and jailed, and I rather boubt there is a statute on kidnapping.
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OK so take another scenario then:
Kid is ten years old. Parents smuggle him across the border illegally. The enroll him in school (which is wrong to begin with, shouldn't be allowed), he graduates high school, no criminal activity, goes to college, gets degree, now wants a job etc... but cannot get one because of legal status.
All the kid knows is the US. At ten he don't have much memory of where he came from. All he wants to do is become a productive citizen in the US.
Would he be an asset? Yes, Educated law abiding people are an asset. Should he be forced to go back to his birth country? Tough decision, he only knows this country and it's his parents fault he's here, not his.
If he serves in the military should he become a citizen? Of course.
Think of it this way.....
If all these people that qualify came here by the fault of their illegal alien parents, they have to document that information. Not there is a registry of illegal alien parents that a President with balls can go after and deport.
I do not like illegals coming here and that is an entirely different subject than this one. I understand their plight.
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So we should deport the parents of said minor and let him stay?

Why not deport the whole family to where he can go and come back the legal way. I find it hard to make illegal things legal because of stupidity.
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So we should deport the parents of said minor and let him stay?

Why not deport the whole family to where he can go and come back the legal way. I find it hard to make illegal things legal because of stupidity.
That would make too much sense. Don't forget we have a politically correct panzy ass nanny government now. So that will never happen.
The Dream Act is stupid in the fact that it is a stand alone bill. Comprehensive immigration reform is needed badly. But the POTUS is too lazy and too afraid of losing votes in his first term to do anything solid like that.
I like what Romney has in mind, but he won't do it either. They all fear political opinion and the activists.
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There is an activist for everything you do now days. We just need to shoot all the activist and we will be all good.
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Another one. What do we do with the children and young adults that come here illegally without their parents voluntarily? Do we let them stay because of the dream act? All they have to say is that they were brought here, there is no way of proving anything.

I knew a few people that came here in their teens without their parents and went to school and were good people. Should we let them stay because they fit the criteria?
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Not to side with Rik, but I think anyone anywhere in the world should be able to live wherever they want without getting mobbed by politicians.

For instance, if i want to pack up and move to Mexico, why do i pay a 50% tax on my net worth to do it?

BS man.
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